joining me now for an exclusive interview, glen greenwald. coming to us on a connectionen south america. i'm in los angeles. all going through new york. i think we can expect a little delay between the two of us here. glen, what, what, what are the key elements of this story that you think we should know? >> first of all that the -- none of the people who have been targeted are kiddconsidered by nsa to be terrorists none involved in terrorist organizations or terrorist plots in any ways. they express views that the u.s. government kids radicals. secondly one of the persons is deemed by the nsa to be a u.s. person. means heap is a citizen or gre card holder which entitles him to increase protections under the law. americans, u.s. persons are not exempt from this program. then thirdly, there is a long, ugly history, lawrence in the united states of the u.s. government deeming certain ideas