anything that would suppress the vote. now what you're seeing is moving throughout the south. but it's also moving into states like wisconsin and other places where there are republican governors who now see an opportunity to depress the vote among minorities, among young people and among those who are likely to vote democratic. >> what's karl rove's gps -- cross roads gps. how is that different than any other pac? >> well, it's different. first of all, it's different because it can take unlimited amounts of money. >> and it's also anonymous. >> it's anonymous. so people can run money through there in any amount. what you get on the finance disclosure, you get nothing. what you get in the tax disclosure as what you were looking at earlier is anonymous donor. person. democrats actually have some persons like that. there just respect as many persons like that in the democratic party giving money.