>> you know, how old were you when you first heard about teen mania? >> the first acquire the fire i went to i was 18 and i actually got saved. >> that's really pretty much the classic age for recruitment into groups like this because, you know, it's right at that -- on the cusp of, i'm about to go out on my own. >> how did you become involved in it? how did you hear about it? >> acquire the fire, i went with my youth group from the time when i was a sophomore through senior year. so i was used to it, looked forward to it every year, would wear my wrist band for, like, months afterward. >> i went to my first atf when i was 13, and didn't think about it again until i went to an atf when i went my senior year and heard about it in a more personal life. it was pitched to be, like, hey, find out god's calling on your life.