what he intends to do out of this election is win big, maybe by 20, 25 points. cuccinelli will have a solid loss in virginia. the narrative is going to be -- >> exactly. >> -- i am the one who knows how to win. and he's been saying this in his speeches. pea says republicans in the other 49 states will be looking to new jersey to see how to win, and he's going to go to these republicans and say you need to change in order to win. the republican pace is very good at resisting that message, but the question, how long can they go on getting beaten up and losing and continue to resist it? the other thing is the establishment candidate always wins the republican primaries for president and they said this about mitt romney about john mccain, he's too moderate to win, he's a rhino. they get beat up in the primaries. but i think chris christie's banking on a strong enough personal appeal and people intuitively trust him. i've found out going around new jersey yesterday and today, the first thing people talk about in the christie rallies is not about his stands on the issues, but that he says something and he'll do it. that will allow him in the primaries not to pander as much