and tell me, right, what kind of republican is the kind that can win? is it the cuccinelli republican or is it the chris christie republican and will the republican party take the lesson of a cuccinelli or a christie win into 2014? >> obviously, chris christie has certainly all the democrats worried. i mean, he's spoke to the base. he's spoke to the issues. he's legislatively has a good record. and the confusion from the liberal democrat side is, how is this guy winning? they like him. he's a likable candidate. he's personable. he's represented new jersey. and he's a jersey boy. he is. but how well that transfers out of new jersey is going to be the question of how they pivot when they do -- and it's obvious they're going to pivot. and you put him, bobby jindal, that we like, that you don't. >> that's right! >> i got it. i got it. and you put a whole string of our stars out there that are running states, the nikki haleys, the bobby jindals, the mitch daniels, the former