president clinton in virginia, and just nothing in virginia to try to at least keep christie's margins down. >> right. the late lee atwater was a very shrewd guy, because a lot of republicans underestimated bill clinton, including for a long time, president bush. but i think the best metaphor right now for what christie is doing is george w. bush, who ran up enormous margins in the texas govern governor's race in 1998. he did particularly well with latinos and got a lot of republican votes and then turned around and sold that to the party. he was the favorite going in, in a way that chris christie is not. but it was of enormous benefit to him in the year 2000. and it helped him look more moderate than he actually was. and i think chris christie can do exactly the same thing here. chris, he's actually a very conservative guy. and i think you're going to see that much more after this election is over. when he is seeking the republican presidential nomination, assuming that he does, he's going to play out how