ground was not used in this case. i heard stand your ground for over a year. it wasn't until the defense had had to file a motion that i stopped hearing stand your ground, which was a year later. which was april of 2013. from february 26, 2012, i had been hearing about stand your ground from the police department, from the attorneys, from the news. everybody said stand your ground. and it wasn't something that we made up. it was something that they were going to use. so it certainly played a part. in addition to that, also the jury was given instructions that had information on there about stand your ground. so it's not that we're making -- you know, making anything up. it's just that it was being used. >> stand your ground, attorney parks, was why they didn't -- they let zimmerman go at the precinct and not charge him. part of it was stand your ground. >> for certain. and rev, i think you have to