trayvon martin, testifying earlier today on capitol hill, about so-called stand your ground laws. these laws, i with are now on the books in no less than 22 states, have made it much easier for people to claim self defense when they fire their weapons. but they make it too easy. that's the question right now. and joining us now is lucy mcbath, who also testified before the senate today about the loss of her son jordan, who was killed by a man that later claimed he was justified under florida's stand your ground law and also representative marsha fudge, democrat of ohio. if i might begin with you, ms. mcbath, we would like to express, obviously, our condolences for your son's loss and also our gratitude that you are speaking out so courageously on this deeply troubling issue. and i would like our audience to take a listen to some of your testimony earlier today. >> but you can never really know my boy.