detrimental, we don't need another insurance here. some looking at wall street and how they are faring, they are doing pretty good. you've always been concerned about the insurance executives and their influence here. what concerns you at this point? >> well, they are inordinately influ enshal. that's why the statement if you like your insurance you can keep it was so ill advised because it doesn't take into consideration how powerful these people are in washington and how much control they have over the health care system. it's important they go to the white house again. a delay into -- of some of the elements of the affordable care act would not be a good thing. i think they can work -- they have a great insen tif to work with the administration to make sure these problems are fixed and fixed quickly. >> let me bring in congressman bill pascrell. thanks for your time today. heated words directed at republicans today from you at this hearing, really calling on