started? >> no. i was like, we grew up. i grew up thinking, this is another situation, not like my situation. it's different. these people are different. i think, one great thing is -- like everybody else, a lot of people, in your family, you work with. just a question of getting to know people. >> live and let live. >> realizing it is not any more than being a straight guy, being a gay guy is not your whole life. most of your life you are working, doing other things, reading the paper, care about politics. sex isn't everything. orientation isn't everything. people will philosophically disagree. you get used to the fact that people have different. a great line in the movie "boys in the band" the guy, at the end of the movie, one of the guys serious guy would go to church at night put everything together, he said, when my dad died in my arms he said, i don't understand it, i never will. like most of life is a mystery. sex is a mystery. we don't create our own sex