for information i was making fun of the white half of obama, not the black half. >> you know we can hear you, right? >> yeah. >> you know we can hear you. >> yes. >> joining us contributing writer for the nation ari berman, the struggle for voting rights from 1955 to today. ari, we can hear you. we can hear everything you're saying. that clip is insane. we're going to talk about how crazy that was. first, i want you to give us a substance. what is the justice department doing vis-a-vis particularly texas and north carolina, voting laws. >> they have sued texas and north carolina under section 2 saying both laws are discriminatory. the real problem in north carolina is not the comments, the problem is the law itself. the comments were insane but discriminatory law is still on the books. north carolina is just arguing right now the lawsuit against it should be dismissed. we have to look at the substance here. yes, there are republican officials saying crazy, racist