catastrophic. he can't do it now. >> why have republicans run against the individual mandate by is a birth out of them. >> they think it is a matter of freedom, if people are foolish. the federal government probably shouldn't make them do it. >> isn't this about individual responsibility? >> everyone who now has an individual plan about 16 million are dplient with obama care, let them deep their plan, my friend bought health insurance. can he keep his plan, please? >> pass it. go for it. >> the house republicans said. >> we need an alternative. >> let it begin, three or four years late. >> so, chuck, who is going to win? >> that's right. bill, the fact that they put