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them, but i believe that it will be fixed in plenty of time before it hurts anybody. and yeah, there is great hypocrisy. and you know, you also have to say this notion of taking over medical care, we can't get the government take this big role in medical care. actually, it is medicare. >> right. >> we ought to stress, again, the government role in medicare, which not even the most right wing republicans are ready to get rid of these days. they thought about it and backed off, is far greater than it will be under the affordable health care act. in medicare, there is much more government involvement in the actual delivery of services. >> not only that, i mean, one of the great ironies here is, of course, that the paul ryan plan for medicare, or the most recent iteration of it, would be something that looks a lot like the obama care exchanges. essentially would be, yes, that's what he wants to do for medicare. in fact, that's what the republican party has voted in lock-step partisan line for is essentially government running an exchange that medicare would be phased into. and so, i think that -- >> and i'll tell you this.

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