experience outside of politics which doesn't mean they're not great people and not dedicated servants, it means they lack judgment. and that's what i see most of the time. we just raised the debt limit for a period of time, and that's kind of like saying we're going to raise the legal limit for blood alcohol, thinking we're going to control drunk driving. we're drunk up there in terms of spending money. and we can keep commitments, but we can't keep commitments if we continue to spend money on things that we shouldn't be spending money on. >> senator coburn, quick follow-up. how much of a reckoning for the republican party has been experienced this week because of going up against the debt default limit and the shutdown? >> well, i think the fight on obama care, the affordable care act, took us off message. the large percentage of american public knows that washington wastes money.