what we have done is try to create neutral food tastes so if the food is bland, at least they are not having something that they find objectionable. >> once you're here a little bit, you're like, you know what? it's really not that bad. a little salt would be nice, and pepper. but other than that, it's, you know, it is hard. >> you keep looking over your shoulder at the other chef here. how come? >> i work for him, so -- that's like the boss. so i'll make sure i don't say anything too bad. i don't want to offend him or say anything out of line. i'm sure i'll have a little talk with him when we're done with this conversation. >> back at the limon correctional facility, we encounter perhaps the most unusual of all inmate meals. prepared for us by captain hubbard it's a sort of self-contained meal for inmates who tend to throw their food in their cells, or at others.