we talked to somebody up very high in the white house. they called us over. yeah. what are we going to talk about. i thought it was going to be some, something about obama care, something else. this was their message. president is not going to budge. i said okay. no. the president is not going the budge. i said you never know how these things go. '95, '96 and they said we just want to you know, say what you want to say every day, the president is not going to budge. i said fine. well thanks for the message. wasn't that basically the message. >> the question, though, is how will we use that strength? and because we're going into in the next couple of months another round of all of this crap. >> that's the problem here. the president can play defense. steve, the president is great on defense. offense is going to be pretty tough. we'll get chuck schumer next. offense is tough for him if say he moves to an immigration bill. >> first one of the good things