pretty much what they do is they get a needle, they make a pocket in your face, they push around to make it hollow and they put a plate inside the slit. >> because those piercings, according to him, are irremovable, we don't know that and we don't know what those piercings are capable, once they're taken out they could contain contraband. they could be used as a weapon, could be against himself, against staff or even fellow inmates. >> i have another one on the back of my neck. it's called a surface staple. as you can see, there's a bar through my neck and there's two flat head screwdriver parts to it. >> basically, for mr. ruiz, for him it's been a good thing being isolated because he won't be exposed to a general population setting. he won't be exposed to gang politics. he won't be exposed to inmate pressures. so for mr. ruiz, it might have been a saving grace for him that he actually had piercings and that he was removed from general population so he doesn't have to answer any of those questions. >> well, as you know, i'm from orange county jail.