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tell, since like the dawn of the 20th century or at least the new deal, has not been the opposition to deficits or the debt, there was a time when they said reagan did it. it is the government provisions to the needy, whether it is to the elderly, the poor, medicaid, food stamps, anything that has to do with government providing benefits to out-groups or to the needy, that is what conservatives oppose. and the reason for opposing the affordable care act, people are not against people buying insurance, it is because they see it as a transfer of wealth to the less wealthy. >> let me just add the notion that the tea party is concerned about money transferring to corporations is fanciful, i think it is a segment of the libertarians who wish this was the problem. you're right, the tea party people don't necessarily get their money from wall street, but from other industries. we know where this money was coming from. a quarter of a billion was just found from the coke brothers,

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