have been. secondly you have a group in the the public just want them to house that absolutely do not figure this out? want to raise the debt ceiling >>. >> well, i think there's really nothing to figure out. under any circumstances. i don't think that you tie the it will require i think speaker health care law, you know, to boehner effectively going whether or not you're going to against a majority of his caucus run this federal government and using democrats to get this forward or not. i just don't think you tie the two together. passed. that's something he's done it's nothing short of blackmail. before but he has said he's not at the end of the day, the going to do now. president and this speaker of we'll have to see. >> i suspect some of your the house really need to come writing ability may have come together and make a decision right now that they're going to from your father who was not reopen this government, they're only a successful businessman going to lift the debt ceiling but also an off broadway and later, after they've done that, they're going to have playwright. >> i think back on it often meaningful conversations about debt and and this country. about my father who i was close i think those are real to and how interesting it was. conversations to be had about right sizing this government. he went to college. but the very notion that you don't want 25 to 30 million he was a depression baby, a war people in this country to have veteran. part of the greatest generation. access to health care coverage he came back from the war and and so you're going to shut down basically said i've got get a job and ended up working in a the federal government, which is paint factory and running a causing some irreparable damage to real families and to our paint factory that belonged to his wife's family. he was going to long island city and making paint and selling it. nation's economy is poppyand has but he always read a lot. to stop. >> we had congressman ryan last he was always interested in