things. one is that as the story came out that she was able to make her way, the mile and a half from the white house to the capitol, and second of all, that the -- >> well, that part, i think, is not very surprising, because once you get away from the immediate area around the white house, the only thing that's going to prevent you from getting to the capitol is traffic. >> right. >> 2:15 on a day when the capitol is going through a shutdown, a lot of federal employees are not here, the traffic is not heavy as usual. she just was, you know, obviously, she wasn't concerned about her safety at any of these points. she's blasting through red lights, going at a very high speed. but she does, i mean, i think it's telling that -- i don't know if she knew where she was going. pennsylvania avenue to the u.s. capitol is a fairly direct route, from the white house to the base of capitol hill. whether she knew that she was -- that was her next destination or not, she headed to the same -- to the part of the city that had