lobbyists sweltering or, you know, all over washington. i also think in many ways, it is the case that the media has lost sight of the concessions the democrats sadly made in 2011, both around sequestration and lopping $70 billion out of the budget, but that's because in many ways the democrats haven't managed to tell a story, that the real story in our country today is not about debt and deficits, it's about jobs and investment in a country that is now being disinvested in at the risk of the security of this country. >> isn't that the point, frank? essentially they've lost the battle over austerity, despite it's crushed the economy in the u.k. essentially, it's been conceded. >> we needed to make cuts in government spending. the sequester is a terrible way to do it. we'll be talking about the debt ceiling.