make harry reid look like he's not negotiating. the second thing, they were just all on the same page. you didn't have other than peter king, you didn't have 15, 20, republicans going public criticizing the strategy like you did the day before. everybody seemed to be quiet. does that mean that will be the case today, tomorrow? long-term? i don't see how this ends very well from the house republicans. but right now, there is united -- they're as united as they have been in a few days. i think they're taking some las in that. which means you will not see any movement at least for this week. >> senator, i wanted to ask you, virginia is pretty balanced state on the knife's edge and national elections. what are independents in virginia thinking about all this? >> well, they're very discouraged, john. to give you an example, if you asked where would a shutdown be felt most? folks would say washington or