that's supposed to be looking out for the interests of the postal service and the taxpayer and all that. and places the call and this guy, this man, a philadelphia lawyer, allen kessler, jumps into action, just makes calls, e-mails all around the postal service saying please fix this. doug band could go to capitol hill and cause problems for us. doug band is so-and-so, and -- >> we need to buy, we have to pay more money for this post office in sarasota because the right-hand man of the ex-president of the united states called me on the phone and said so. >> exactly, and there's a wonderful exchange of e-mails i got in a freedom of information request through chatter about chelsea's wedding and a lot of sort of clinton land -- >> isn't this just the way that all of the 1% roll? like, couldn't you just do the same thing on the bushies, on any prominent -- like, this moving back and forth between public and private, that's just how everyone works, right? >> it is how washington works these days and that's a real