it's america. no one's really hungry, a. b, we are just trying to make this program work better, be more efficient, and we are pushing work requirements, because that's -- we believe that people should work. we don't want the lazy, indolent folks laying around, living off government largess. what do you think? >> they should get out to the communities i represent. if they want to see people who are hungry, come to flint, come to saginaw. i talk to them every single day, number one. and secondly, they talk about a work program. if they were serious about wanting people to have an alternative to being poor and having a job, they would work to create jobs in this country. the infrastructure bill would put people to work, rebuilding schools and bridges and roads. all this is is an effort on the part of the few who have control and power to make sure they continue to keep their big tax breaks, offshore their profits, and who do they have paying for it? who do they pick to pay for