involved in education. >> wouldn't conservatives be in favor of more streamlined loan process an mother deliverables as it were from taxpayers? >> there are conservatives who have been highly constructive on this. for instance, you have a really good belt that's trying to get a fair amount of data that colleges currently keep locked up about what students make after college and try to unlock that data so kids have it. i'd make one more point on the health care thing. health care and education suffer from similar problems. they've both grown at way faster than the rate of inflation. the thing they really share that i think is important is these are basically two kinds of products that people don't feel able to say no to. they don't feel able to say no to health care for their spouse or children. they don't feel able to say no to college costs for their kid because otherwise they're told, and it's often true, that they're setting their kid up for a lifetime of at least comparative failure. and that gives in both those