faith and credit of the united states. we owe $16.7 trillion and they won't let the president of the united states say that we're going to pay that? we owe that. and what could happen to us financially? do we hear from the corporate structure? do we hear from the business structure? no. and then when you see this attack on obama care, which is health care, have we heard from the religious community? no. we've heard from them on the question of birth control, same-sex marriage. but what about the sick kids, those with preconditions can't get insurance and the poor. as far as i'm concerned, these are not just democratic issues, they're moral issues. but unfortunately most people don't even know the names of their members of the house of representatives. >> let me ask you guys really quickly, because there's a deal that some conservative republicans are pushing. raise the debt ceiling for a year, delay the health care law for a year, give back some of the pentagon cuts.