one -- then an equally powerful cultural argument need to be made in response. joining me now -- david sorrota. when i read your column, opened my eyes to approaches i have not considered. in the thick of it in colorado. what are progressives missing abut how to handle these types of debates. >> what happened here in colorado, lawrence, the democrats passed a sensible set of gun control measures. then thought they could go away from it, ignore it, not worry about it. not continue to sell it. what ended up happening was the very motivated gun extremists in this state, mounted a set of campaigns, recall campaigns, to highlight the issue, take out democrats, give the nra a gift of saying here is a way to scare other legislators all across the country by passing sensible regulations.