city of nondemocratic groups. >> you know why? crown heights, took the side of the guys that killed roosevelt. you shouldn't be -- one sided when it comes to murder, i'm sorry. >> but in 1993, think of the murder rate, the violent crime rate was in 1993. and the message from joe lhota's campaign is going to be, remember 1993, do you want to go back to that? >> do you think there is a race coming up? >> the reason i'm skeptical, shameless plug, we're going to have lhota on our show weekend, but -- >> i mean, had to be real fast -- >> got to finish it up here. >> one thing with lhota, keep in mind that republicans in new york are not that conservative. you know, lhota is pro gay marriage, things like that. but yeah, there are neighborhoods that people who lived here in 1993, we don't