southerner, voted against the civil rights act in 1957. the idea that lyndon johnson was overcoming his past in 1964, it was hardly even the past at that point. >> it didn't do nearly enough. it was water down to accommodate the southern -- >> watered down by who? >> by lyndon johnson. >> this is my point. i'm not forgiving or dismissing or ignoring the fact there was a southern segregationist democratic party and democratic party for years through 1936 -- >> southern segregationist democratic party that included a guy from massachusetts. you take 1946 -- >> hang on that point for a moment. a northern liberal who looked at the civil rights bill said this thing means nothing from a civil rights standpoint, i wouldn't lump that person in with segregationists because they make the point the bill should go farther. >> kennedy did nothing. in 1946 you have taft