i realize the shift of what god has done for so many of us. for so many of us. >> you -- you had to endure child abuse. you then tried to go into plays. you got the idea watching oprah, i think, that -- >> yeah. >> -- of starting to write down things. tell us how this seed was planted because i think oprah doesn't get a lot of credit for a lot of inspiring that she's done. >> listen to me, if i hadn't seen that show, first of all, i saw this woman on television every day who looked like me. looked like my aunt or my cousin. you know, for the first time. and she said it was cathartic to write things down. i had a terrible, you know, i barely graduated high school and i had to go look up the word cathartic to find out what it meant. you laugh, but true. i go and look it up then i started writing all of these shows, these stories. i didn't want people to know that i had been through the things i'd went through, so i used different characters names over and over, you know, in some