line on the use of these chemical weapons. it's not the first alleged incident. >> here's the problem, eli. it seems to me -- >> it's escalated. >> it seems to me like the logic we're following here, tom, i want you to respond to this, is something must be done. anyone who looked at the evidence of the attack thought something must be done. this is something, therefore, something must be done. that seems like the question here. the logic is, what happens after the doing of it? what net positive do human -- what reduces misery and increases joy? what reduces human suffering the day after we send a bunch of cruise missiles? >> i think part of the -- >> tom, then eli. then we'll come to you, amy. >> i think part of it is there's also a false assumption the second we start doing this, all other lanes of conversation stop. the diplomacy which has been exhaustive will continue. samantha power will con to push for a resolution at the u.n. and fry desperately to get the russians out of a morally untenable position.