legislator, first black county commissioner, he went on to found the school. >> and now, it is -- as a historically black school, it is mostly african-american, but it is diverse, right? >> that is right. it is mostly african-american, but it is every year, it gets more and more diverse. >> when you drive to elizabeth city from the nearest airport in norfolk, virginia, you drive past the place i would put up against any other place i know, forget badlands, when you drive from norfolk and you cross the state line from virginia into north carolina down to elizabeth city, you go through dismal swamp, dismal swamp, the great park, it was dug by slaves, terrible conditions, they finished it. it was opened by 1805.