if you're his friend, we don't have to dig any deeper. it is interesting. we are actually talking about apples and oranges when we're talkinging about the birther movement with president obama and with ted cruz. with ted cruz, there is a question of whether people who are not born on american soil should be able to run for president. we saw it with 2008 and john mccain. with president obama, it is not a question of whether he should run because of american soil, being born on it or not. the validity of his birth certificate. the otherization of president obama. so while on the surface, they look lake similar issues, we're really talking about how the republican party pushes away president obama, putting him in as another person. >> you're right. and some on the rate are accusing the left, goldie, of being birthers. listen to this. >> murphy, are you a left wing birther? if people now question ted kras'