so wouldn't it be great if the oceans were feeding as many people as possible? >> let's put this in real english terms. we spoke in the break about this. so you've got fish on one hand, a fish fillet, and a burger on the other side. compare and contrast those two about why the fish are so much better. >> when you make that choice, you're making a choice for the planet that's huge. here's how big it is. when you eat the hamburger, there was -- there is enough corn in that hamburger that was feeding that cow and there's enough corn in that one hamburg tore make 200 tacos and enough fresh water that was used to irrigate the cornfield to fill 10,000 fresh water glasses. when you eat that fish sandwich, you're not. >> you have four points that you make. i want to give folks something tangible, something they can hold on to to learn from this conversation. you talk about eat wild, eat its, eat local, eat shellfish. so we'll start at the top. eat wild. >> yeah. so most farm fish that people eat is like a farm salmon. unfortunately, salmon are fed