increase in stop-and-frisk is causing a crime decrease is just lunacy. it is just completely wrong. >> and john, the nypd became a statistics-driven department over the last several years on everything. and under bill bratten, had he was running it. and can you explain to me why these statistics don't impress them the way they impressed the judge, which is since the stop-and-frisk program is about ultimately the -- the ultimate target of it is getting weapons. in exactly 1% of the african americans who were stopped and frisked, 1% produced a weapon through that search. of hispanics, it was 1.1%. and then of white people it was the highest. it was 1.4%. and those numbers were very important to the judge. but those numbers don't seem to