clinton has stepped out there publicly now and gotten political? >> well, first, with regard to the governor, i think he's made a gross miscalculation. notice, thomas, how he characterized the opposition to what he's done as coming from the extreme left. i'm not sure what the extreme left is, but i know i'm not a part of it. i'm just offended by this because it represents, i think, a changing or warping of the rules. i've long believed that in the 2020 campaign where it was romney against obama that this came back to haunt the gop because this became associated with the gop brand and the people who are not participasan extremes in the middle who said, this smells bad. it's not right. beat them fair and square at the election box, not by manipulating the polls. >> well, it was almost a dare. i dare you to try to take away my voeting rights. okay. i'm going to have to meet these burdens, which are ridiculous. it was almost a dare. so people did show up. we saw record numbers of people