congressman? >> governor richardson, let me get your comment. >> i think what the congressman is advocating is basically shameful, but at the same time, there is a problem in the house of representatives. and the problem is that the house will not take up the senate bill the way it is. what needs to happen is a procedural fix followed by -- right now in the august recess, evangelical groups, law enforcement groups, business groups are focusing on republicans that are the key. what i would do if i were the president is i'd ask vice president biden to lead an effort to make some procedural deals. have part of the house bill not just border security but some kind of -- some kind of naturalization be part of a package that goes to the senate. make the deal in conference. that's the way to go. >> david, the larger point here, if immigration doesn't get past th passed this fall, if it is put