formidable front-runner she is, about how to go about this? >> all right, well, i think that the two strongest candidates, if she doesn't run, would be somebody like andrew cuomo or joe biden. you have to watch and see whether she's going to run. if she runs, an altered the landscape dramatically because she's so strong. >> would you tell martin o'malley if they asked you your advice, is it worth doing it, is it worth trying the uphill battle that it's going to be. you found yourself in that situation, tougher to raise money, tough to get people, because they all jumped on one of the two front-runners in the race that you were involved in. >> yeah, i would say go for it. i'm different than other people. i would say to the o'malleys, to joe, cuomo, others contemplating it, out west and montana, my friend brian i think is a viable