but can you make money in a big city newspaper with traffic concerns where you got to get the paper out physically way ahead of time? how do you make money with a paper these days. up against everything else. >> right. i think bezos is betting that you can. the first thing that you do is slay the old business. you let the traditional sources of revenue, the subscriber base, you know, the ad revenue, print ad revenue gracefully sunset and build a new business online. i think that's the opportunity he'll go after. >> online? >> yeah. and he's got, you know -- this is $250 million. for him it's a drop in the bucket. he brings us long-term operating philosophy, willing to sustain a lot of losses sometimes to the consternation of amazon shareholders. i think we'll see him bring that operating philosophy to "the washington post." >> you said the wrong word for me, online. i'm worried here. that's not a newspaper. >> look, 20 years from now, do you think we're going to be dealing with physical newspapers delivered on your doorstep? 20 years from now. i'm not sure we are. right now, that's what, 70%,