>> david corn, answer that question. >> this is about chaos and destruction. ezra has it right. they're -- and exploit that. are they doing this by going to one frat party at a time? do they have young organizers and freedomworks to do that? >> if the law has a problem, it's going to be making, you know, connections between the exchanges and the states, and getting young penal to sign up, and the biggest concern is that any sort of saeb stage campaign that a few far-right yahoo organizers in washington cook up. >> ezra action back to you. is this worth defunding the government, though? is it worth crashing the country on? >> no. the reason ted cruz can't get any support is that it's a