correctional system. is that a coincidence or do these people have, you know, like a racial commitment to crime? >> maybe it says something about prejudice in the judicial system. >> yeah, if you want to talk about criminal statistics, you might want to take a look at the social inequalities that produce them. >> yeah, you know what, that's exactly what i hate, because what you're doing taking one thing and calling it something else and alleviating the responsibility these people have for their own actions. it's like saying it's not a riot, it's rage. it's not crime, it's poverty. it's nonsense. >> these are old arguments, right? these are arguments that are trodded out a lot. >> these are recycled arguments which don't get to the real root of the issue. first of all, racial profiling, disparate treatment in the criminal justice system. when you look at gun violence, we can't even get a gun violence package passed in congress just requiring background checks. >> here's what i say to you as a mother of two black sons and as someone who is now in the united states congress, serving there for a while. what i find most frustrating is