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i think there are two or maybe a combination. was she doing that because she shares the same ambition that the guy who got in trouble here once again admitted he is in trouble, or is it that she just supports whatever bad news comes with the marriage, for better or for worse? >> well, chris, thanks for having me. i think it's a combination of the two. i think you know, she said i love him, i forgave him, i believe in him, and i think there must be some truth to that before the whole scandal broke, they seemed like this perfectly happy sort of political wonder duo. i think she wants him to be mayor because she believes in him. but i also think she wants him to be mayor because, you know, her family has a lot of work to do from, you know, catching up from the scandal. and, you know, being the first lady of new york city might be better for her than being the disgraced wife of -- the wife of this disgraced politician who has embarrassed her now time and time again.

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