compelling. also it's 11970. >> i think that was more distasteful than this. i think the manson one was glamorizing manson. here's my feeling about this image. first of all, it seems people are mad at "rolling stone" because people find this person, this individual accused of an absolutely horrific disgusting crime physically attractive, he's a good looking young man and took a selfie. it seems to me part of the fwoel of this image is to make people stop and think about the line that separates a normal person from someone capable of doing something monstrous. >> yes. and that is what the article is about. the context of the article, this picture would be very appropriate and this photo was on the cover of "the new york times" and in a news context you could understand it and place it in context. on "rolling stone," on the cover, he looks like a stroke. he looks like a jonas brother. he looks like someone who would be dating taylor swift. >> right. >> he doesn't look like -- >> you're saying the combination of this magazine with this