couldn't disprove it beyond a reasonable doubt. this wasn't even a close call. >> john, what about for you, and taking into account when angela corey got involved with this, was the bar set too high with the charges? >> i always thought the charges were much, much too high. just having seen the photos at the very outset, before she got involved, i viewed this as a potential manslaughter case if not self-defense. so that made it very difficult. so, they tried this case as a self-defense case -- i mean, tried it as second-degree murder case when it never had the facts to support it. even with all of that, when they got into the middle of the case and even toward the end when there was an opportunity to try to make this a manslaughter case, they didn't argue it that well. they didn't try it that well. at the end of the day, the instructions were so confusing around manslaughter i never thought the jury could work its way through it to find it. from a factual point of view it was a challenging case from the prosecutors in the very beginning. i will say this case was tried