perimeter around there, holding sticks, locking arms. some are wearing karate type uniforms and say they will only go if they are pushed out, they're preparing to fight. they say what is happening here or seems to be happening here if something -- if the army does take decisive action is a coup which they say is illegitimate and dangerous. >> tense times in cairo, egypt, and around the country. could be a historic day here as we get close to 5:00 p.m. local in egypt. richard engel, thank you so much. we'll continue to be watching what is happening there with that ultimatum here on msnbc and, of course, we will also continue to watch what is happening in sanford, florida. they will pick up in about four minutes from now with the court proceedings there. a short break. thomas roberts is up next with continuing coverage of the george zimmerman trial and they'll be set to be back in just a little bit. well now i'm her dietitian... ...and last year, she wasn't eating so well. so i recommended boost complete nutritional drink