he does weekly radio shows. he's taken a lot of questions. he's not a guy who previously has hidden behind people around him. the repeated no comments on this, and no explanations on this, i have also found surprising in departure from his previous behavior. there are these ongoing investigations. a federal investigation and a state investigation. is there a case to be made that he shouldn't do anything and maybe he shouldn't comment at all until those investigations are resolved? >> rachel, i would say those vases won't be resolved until the case is tried in front of the jury, if he's indicted, and i'm not assuming he will be. frankly, i hope he won't be. he has an obligation to the citizens now to explain what's happened. i mean, all of these items, all of these stories coming out, all of us as public officials have to come forward and show we're honest, that we're fair. and when these stories come out and when they're not denied, when they're not rebutted, that frankly casts a shadow over all of us in the general assembly and most of us like myself, we're part timers. this is not our profession. we do this because we believe in it. and separate and apart from the governor's legal status, he has an obligation to tell the citizens that he's making decisions that are in the best interest of the commonwealth and not those that are financially beneficial to himself. >> senator chuck petersen of