don west off and said you've got to understand. you've got to understand. trying to explain why she went through all of this and what did don west do? he cut her off. i sincerely think that don west is the wrong person to be doing this cross-examination. i think mark o'mara i think would have let her speak, would have been much more compassionate, someone who the other thing about don west and why i'm focused on don west, remember he's the one who told the knock knock joke in the opening statement for the defense. so he's already coming to this cross-examination with a knock against him. so you would think that he would show a little bit of compassion, not be so cold. >> right. we're also joined by craig melville melvin down in sanford, florida. you've been in the courtroom. can you describe the atmosphere? as things have been proceeded with this particular witness?