>> but i have to say -- practically they didn't talk to us much any way, the governor's office. the other agencies have been helpful. if we ask for documentation, they have to give it to us even if we file freedom of information requests. so at most, it will slow us down a little, but we have a room full of a lot of talented journalists, as you can see in the series we did. i have to put a plug in for collin woodward. this will slow us down a little. >> to that point, i mean, obviously they feel like they can effectively block you from covering state government by refusing to talk to you about anything. the way you learned you had been blacklisted was by a request for the governor's public events schedule. there couldn't be anything more publicly available than that. they seem to think they can give