it was just really devastating. but ironically, it didn't pass because there were those on the right that didn't think it went far enough. and so it didn't pass for some of the wrong reasons, but it was a devastating farm bill. and really -- we need to take a look at this and create a new farm bill and one that supports hungry americans, consumers, family farms. and the environment. >> does the polarization in and around the topic of food stamps, it is quite shocking. on one hand, the democrats, progressives think what was going to be done was quite unacceptable. but there is another end of the spectrum that think the cuts were not drastic enough. i want to play a sound bite from lewis gomer, and let's see what he thinks about hunger, obesity, and food in america. >> we don't want anyone to go hungry.