to run for president. or hung out with bill clinton at cgi. you chose bill clinton, why? >> because of the topic. the topic was he wanted to talk about leadership in a crisis after sandy and i thought -- >> this is not going to help you with the base. come on, man. >> again. >> you know, it's kind of unusual for me but i think my job is to do my job. >> really? >> and i think share some of the lessons we learned from sandy and still learning was a good thing to do. president clinton's always been very cordial and nice to me and when he called and asked for me to be there, i said yes. >> you acknowledge you were taking a risk being with him, saying that after he sat next to you at a basketball game, he was thinking, this guy's political career is over. >> well, i think that's the overdramatizing the president for my benefit but the fact is we've always gotten along very well and when he called and told me this is what he wanted to talk about, i thought it was a great thing for me to do.